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 Post subject: Need Help Installing Hurst Dual Gate Shifter
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:44 pm 
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Ok guys, I feel like a real idiot asking...but I haven't A CLUE! I purchased a new Hurst Dual Gate shifter, made for the '68 Camaro console. I got the old horseshoe style out, and I'm attempting to install the new shifter.

First Problem.. prior to me somebody rigged up the gear selector on the side of the TH400, so I purchased the correct gear selector for it... just got to figure out the correct position for it, and how it should be mounted?

Second Problem.. connected to the horseshoe shifter is a module with 3-wires connected to it, guessing neutral safety switch, do I need to hook this up for the Hurst shifter to work? Reason is I can't figure out why the car won't start, almost like it's out of gear, and not in park I guess.

Probably real simple answers to these, transmissions just aren't mine thing. Thanks for any help....

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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:53 am 
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The three wires are the nuetral safety switch and probably a power wire for the lighted gear indicator. I've never installed that shifter but if it's cable operated try putiing the lever on the trans in park, shifter in park and attaching everything up. Then see if you have a full range of motion through all gears and adjust accordingly.

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The nuetral safety switch wires are purple and purple with a white stripe. They have to be connected together or the starter won't engage.

There should also be 2 wires for the backup light switch, these will be pink and green.

And yes, there is a wire for the light on the factory shifter, it is gray.

The hurst shifter should have hookups for the neutral safety and backup lights.

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:23 am 
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Great... hopefully today I can start working on it again. I quickly checked, and yes the two purple wires connect together to a connector, and there is the pink and green wire, but no where on the shifter to connect the wires. Time to call The Part's Place where I bought it. It's not like its a used shifter, it's new and I figured it wouldn't be this difficult.

Ok, I spoke with The Part's Place, they haven't made a neutral safety switch setup for this shifter yet. They say I need to jump the two purple neutral safety switch wires together. To be safe here, what is the safest way to connect the two together. I'm guess I'm worried that it might be a continuous draw and drain the battery?

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The danger in that connection is in the fact that the car will crank in any gear selector postion. The other part of the danger is what ever you connect with needs to be heavy enough to carry the load. The purple wires only carry current when you have the key in the crank postion. I think for me I would use the same guage wire (12?) and two spade terminals and just jumper it that way. Not fool proof as the possibilty is there that it could still overheat the connections. Could a neutral switch of some other make car be adapted or could you relocate to the column (if you retain lock out linkage after the conversion)?

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doin some research for ya...

The statement "haven't made a neutral safty switch for this YET" cannot possibly be true, as the Dual Gate was first produced 40 years ago, and used in the Hurst-Olds cutlass, as well as standard equipment in many GTO's. When I was in grade school, my best friends mother had a cream colored 67 GTO convertible, it had a hurst dual gate in it from the factory, and the nuetral safety and backup lights worked.

Also, the dual gate is no longer on hursts website... so it may be discontinued.

This diagram http://hrst79.tripod.com/79hrst/id11.html shown the shifter and the optional combination switch, but I can't quite read the part number... 5709 maybe?

I'd think a nuetral safety/backup light switch exists and can be found. Perhaps a phone call to Hurst would be the best bet?

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As for jumping it out so the car will start, a short piece of 12 gauge wire, stick it in both purple terminals, tape it up, you'll be good to go.

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Thanks for all the help.. I'm digging around, I hate not having the safety switch.

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Mine was bypassed since I had the car. Fixed it yesterday. :thumbsup:

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