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...been thinking a lot about this lately. The picture below is what came with the car when i bought it. I had been trying to figure out what would fit that aluminum bracket. It came with the original caliper to the car and obviously it didn't fit. It wasn't until my uncle, couple weeks ago, mentioned that I should go with corvette brakes. So I did some research and see what would be need to be able to use corvette brakes and stumbled upon a picture of the bracket that is on the car, looks VERY similar...

http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-brak ... -1969.html

The only way i would end up going with this kind of setup if I would be able to find the calipers at a auto dismantler, junk yard, or craigslist. I say this because I don't have the kind of money to go with baer, ssbc, wilwood, etc...

I am, strongly, considering going with this setup from cpp...

http://www.classicperform.com/Store/196 ... 74WBPS.htm

for $399 since it comes with all the hardware needed to bolt right up.

Reason I would go with the corvette setup is my uncle mentioned that the motor, with all the previous upgrades made, has a lot of power. So I figure I would need something a little more better than a stock setup like the cpp would give me to be able to stop, seems logical. Not saying that a stock type setup would not stop the car at all. I like the cpp package since it has everything I would need and dont have to bother finding other parts like i would do with the corvette setup. Would still have to hunt down rotors, brake lines, etc.. at the dealer or local auto parts store.

I would really appreciate your guy's opinions, suggestions and anything else that you can think of. I am sure some or all of you have done brake system upgrades or even tried multiple systems and have you likes and dislikes about them.

I am writing this soo early in the morning when i should be asleep by now. Insomnia sucks avocados!!
So if some stuff seems weird or just something, i apologize. Don't have the energy to proofread.

I appreciate ALL your feedback.

Thank You

By the way, upper and lower tubular control arms are Global West with coil overs. Spoke to a tech guy and he said that it takes the stock spindle. But i cant find any factory stampings on the spindles in the picture.

Just some extra info that i thought might help

Is this a street car not running huge diameter rims?
If so dont underestimate the factory disc/drum combo.
In NZ we have a brake check on rollers every 6 months...the camaro flys thru every time for the last 30 yrs...And with comments from the inspectors much suprise at how good they are, even compared to modertn cars of far lighter weight.
If I was upgrading I would be going ABS like most of the custom rods in NZ currently are now.
PS I also tow my vintage cars...both with braked and unbraked trailers upto around 1200 kg (gross trailer weight)

This will be a cruiser and of course, mash on gas and see what she can do from time to time. The car will be running 17's all around. This car came from the factory with front disc brakes.

You tow your other toys with a stock type brake setup?

Thanks Steps for your reply

Yep....And the fire wood, move house to the children when needed.
Dont underestimate the engine cooling system or the stock disc.drum brake setup or the later model stock HEI.
Factory Doesnt = crap when it comes to GM
And aftermaret 'race' doesnt very often = better.


These 1st gens historically where and still are critised for bad breaks and killing ppl back in their time....THEN GM put power brakes and discs up front, Following the Aussie example of a few yrs previous..And since the heavy critisum of the American car builders of the time, both Ford And GM went over board...
Now If racing like Watkins Glen, drums are not an option, they get hot and fade...And these days anything less than ABS is not an opition....
Its not about disc/ disc over disc /drum these days its about abs and not abs technology.

All the rest is marketing propaganda...
Except with huge rims on 4x4s with so much momentum at the rims its too geat for the disc and they shatter (which I and others have a therory the issue is chinese/japanese steel insteat of European/American/korean steel.

Victor, stopping power-wise, they say factory type front disks such as the $399 cpp setup will serve just fine on the street, even with the old drums out back.

Looks, particularly with 17" wheels, are a different story altogether, especially the drums.



The wilwoods are amazing. 12.2" cast iron disks, multi piece alluminum hubs, solid mounted 4 piston alluminum calipers, actuated by a wilwood 7/8" master, manual system no booster at all. Pedal is light and solid. Stopping power is like hitting a wall. There is no fade, even after repeated hard stops. And the system is fifty pounds per corner lighter than a factory disk brake. Cost was $1600 total, several years ago, a special deal from Frank at Prodigy, back before he made the big time.

I did the same as Jim above, painted the calipars and the drums blue..
Except althu the camaro is simiar colour to Jims brakes are a darker blue...
And also painted the centers of the SS cragers....
Instead of having red or yellow 'blasting' out from behind the wheels, in your face, "I have fancy brakes.." and distracting from the overall look of the car.....they look as if they are part of the car...not the car part of the brakes....and the rims do also

I have the CPP front disks on mine and they work fine even with rear drums ( most likely burnt up from brake torques ) only fade I ever experienced was after hot lapping at the track last summer. I did a pass, came around and ran a second pass (no line to run) and the brakes took noticeably longer to slow the car down. Probably another 40-50 feet. But on the street they are fine. Any roadracing in your future and step up to a bigger setup or

I was side tracked for a couple weeks. Had foot surgery, July 25, to remove a mass that turned out to be a tumor that wasn't cancerous. Put on my right shoe for the 1st time today and feels good other than the occasional sharp pain or burning feeling that i get on top of my foot.

So I decided to get a C4 rotor to day from Autozone and test fit this poop on my current setup. This is what i got...(see pic)

I took a measurement from the end of the rotor to the side of the inside of the rim where the caliper is suppose to be and it is 1 3/4 of an inch. Seems way to small to squeeze in a C5 rotor and basket. So I think i have made up my mind and will probably go tomorrow or by the end of this week and buy the kit from CPP.

Thank you EVERYONE for your help and opinions, means alot. That is why I enjoy this site, people helping people.

any progress is good progress.

Glad your foot's ok!