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 Post subject: So you want to learn to weld! Part 1
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:59 pm 
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It's worth noting that the silly software that automatically creates a thread from new article always says I wrote it. I didn't. This is Don's welding article, new on the frontpage todayt, Jan. 10, 2011.
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Who doesn't want to be able to weld? But much like any other skill you first need the tools to do the job. OK it's obvious that you will need a welder. I'm a beginner so I chose a Lincoln HandyMig. There are many entry level Mig welders, but I suggest choosing a brand name. Expect to pay about $300 or so for the welder.

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After you get over the initial joy of having your very own welder

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Great stuff Don, can't wait for part 2!

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JimM wrote:
Great stuff Don, can't wait for part 2!


X2!!!!!

I picked up a welder a while back and have been practicing, but I have a hard time seeing what I am doing and my welds do not look very good. It might be due to my inexpensive - entry level helmet. I am going to get the helmet you recommend. Thanks!!!

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I'm still a beginner, but I thought sharing my experiences so far might help others. You guys who can weld in your sleep fell free to comment as each part is posted. The plan is to add a bit each week, hopefully Saturdays.

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Good work Don!!

i'll never weld myself but this is a great learning tool in easy to follow steps...... :yes: :bowdown:

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I'm still a beginner, but I thought sharing my experiences so far might help others. You guys who can weld in your sleep fell free to comment as each part is posted. The plan is to add a bit each week, hopefully Saturdays.


I've wanted to learn to weld for quite some time :yes: ......I'll be an interested spectator of this thread so post away Don!!!!!!!

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Learning how yo use heat to make 2 peices of steel into one was on my "TODO" list for many years, and one I realized a few years back. Yes, I still have lots of work to do to get really good at it, and plenty left to learn.
I'll eagerly read every word that may help my skills.

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Welding things together is cool.Now welding things together good enough so when you crash you don,t die scares the crap out of me.
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For the record I'm no expert top of the line fabricator/body man who shits platinum by any means . But I have owned a few welders over the yrs, and have more than moderate experience with Arc AC/DC, MIG, gas, and some TIG welding. Don this looks like it's going to be a good series. :thumbsup:

Having said that I agree with most of what you say. While your right some of the valves on the cheaper "off" brands are crap. Most of them from the Lincoln, Hobart, and Miller welders are usually the same from the basic $400 ones at Home Depot, TSC, or Farm & Fleet to the higher end ones like the Miller 210 and 211 models to the Lincoln 2698 and 2816. So turning around and buying a second regulator is usually a waste of money unless you get a used welder with a bad valve. As most of us couldn't tell if the pressure was running at 18 psi vs 20 or 22 psi. Having said that it is still better to buy the best welder you can afford. (within reason) You don't need to buy a $2000 Miller to be a professional welder, but buying something like the Miller 210 or the Lincoln 140C/180C with there constant amp control allowing infinite adjustment versus 4 or 5 amp ranges will greatly help you become a better welder. Especially when it comes to welding thinner sheet metal. But by the same token just because you spend $100-150 for a brand name Miller or Hobart "auto" helmet doesn't mean it's a great helmet. I've used some that sucked. You really need to watch the reaction times more than just the price on the auto darkening helmets. Miller has some that react in 1:5000/sec which sounds super fast until you look at some that react in 1:25000/sec. ( 5 times faster.) And some will say you can't tell with that quick of a reaction time, but I'm telling you after any length of time welding you will notice a difference, and start to get a headache with the slower helmet. All that said don't get me wrong Miller makes some great helmets, and for the "pro" welding 10-30 hrs every week they are worth every penny for the dependability and durability. But for the average guy who welds once or twice a month at best there are better values out there with some of the Hobart, Lincoln and even a couple from Northern Tool like the one I have now. (After taking back a $150 Miller that gave me a headache from the flash.) The last thing is I agree on the small grinder being great for more detailed work . I would just like to add that whether you use a 4 1/2" grinder a or a 2"/3" mini "die" grinder flap wheels last longer run cooler and are far easier to control than grinding/sanding disks. And having burned myself a few times when I was younger. Even the cotton welding jackets are better than an old flannel in the hot summer months when it's too hot to wear leathers. While not as durable or burn resistant as a good leather jacket. They are lighter and still far better than just a long sleeve shirt.

Sorry for the l - o - n - g winded reply Don. :red_faced: I meant no offence just trying to share my opinion and I hope some useful info.

Like I said I look forward to the next installment in this series. :popcorn:


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Boy Harley if you come out to the westcoast,drop over and we can tig weld some of these chrome moly tubes we have going together here.This stuff is so thin you can,t weld it like you can mild steel.The mig is so fast to use on mild steel tubing compared to the tig on moly tubes.Its like building a car out of muffler tubing.I bought the miller helmet with all the settings for tig and just love it.I get a headache from my wife not the helmet .
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